nuts with grains?

[marktb68]

Hi,

I have a question about  combining nuts with grains, specifcially rice.  Are you saying I cannot combine ANY nuts with rice? Please clarify and be specific.

THANKS,

Mark

[Isolde]

Hi,

 Are you saying I cannot combine ANY nuts with rice? Please clarify and be specific.

 
What is needed to be specified? It's a clear rule not combinig nuts and grains. That means all nuts and all grains.

For tangling and irritating: peanuts are legumes, so maybe you can feel free to put them into your rice 

To be true: small amounts of peanuts are working with me in phase 1.
Isolde

[ChenZhen]

no, ori said peanuts and cashews should be treated as nuts, so if your goal is weightloss you should avoid combining them with rice or other grains.

[PHwarrior]

I think a lot of people here get a little too obsessed with "what Ori says".  It's kind of strange honestly.  To be quite honest, I found that much of the "rules" of the diet have little true scientific support behind them, or even firsthand support by actual WD/AED "practicers" who can attest to the virtues of what Ori teaches (let's be honest, statistically there aren't a lot of us around, and the vast majority of fit/muscular people do not follow a WD/AED plan at all). 

Before you label me as a basher, I am not saying that Ori is not correct in most cases or that the diet does not have merit - IMO it certainly does and is working very well for me - but ultimately this is Ori's philosophy and beliefs, and what works for the majority of people who follow his program.  But it is not the Gospel.  Frankly I'm not sold on a lot of the food combination rules, and after I get more in tune w/ my body on this diet I eventually plan to experiment more with it - tweaking it to what works for me, whether or not it agrees with "what Ori says". 

If that means I have a big peanut butter and honey sandwich every once in a while, so be it 

[ChenZhen]

it has nothing to do with being obsessed what ori says but in the end it's his idea/diet.
 
everyone is free to do whatever one wants but if one brakes the rules and doesn't have success than one can't claim it's the wd/aed that didn't work (not that you said so).

imo it's quite important to follow the rules in the first few weeks/months, after some time you'll know what works for you and what not.

personally i wouldn't give up peanut butter with bread but i know it has no bad effects on me   

[peter]

Peanut Butter Sandwich with honey...i haven't had one in a while, not because of any diet rules, but i just haven't. Not sure why. They're the shit! They taste great, and cheap to make for sure.

[jkratt]

I think a lot of people here get a little too obsessed with "what Ori says".  It's kind of strange honestly.  To be quite honest, I found that much of the "rules" of the diet have little true scientific support behind them, or even firsthand support by actual WD/AED "practicers" who can attest to the virtues of what Ori teaches (let's be honest, statistically there aren't a lot of us around, and the vast majority of fit/muscular people do not follow a WD/AED plan at all).

Some people may get obsessed, and there may not be a majority of fit people following the WD/AED. But you made some pretty bold statements there about there being "little scientific support" behind Ori's ideas. If you're going to make statements like that you should back them up. Ori has indeed presented a lot of scientific research to back up what he says. Does that mean that there is no other scientific research backing up other ideas? No, it just means that there are different scientific studies with different conclusions. But some are right and some are wrong. I have seen many of the conclusions Ori makes about estrogen in several other medical journals and studies.

I've never bought into the concept that the "majority" are right. One thing I think we can all agree on is that there is no "gospel" on diet and nutrition; we are constantly learning more about ourselves and our environment. The smart ones are always trying to learn more. Ori strikes me as a person that would change his ideas if his or other's latest research proves a needed change in another direction.

The "rules" as you call them (Ori never calls them rules) are there to guide people at the beginning. I've seen it said many times that people will learn on this diet which food affect them. I have created my own set of "food rules" based on what I have learned works for me. I think that's the whole point of this.

I guess this must make me one of those crazy Ori zombies.

[DN Moderator]

Thanks Jerel, well said.  I can tell you that things would not have progressed to this point and Ori wouldn't have had 3 PUBLISHED books and gained the respect and notoriety that he has thus far if there was nothing to substantiate his assertions within the books, supplements and programs.  And yes, there is a ton of science to back it up.