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jordans4
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« on: January 25, 2010, 03:32:36 PM »

Whatsup Warriors,
Quick question, I'm currently following a 5 day high fat, 2 day high carb cycle and loving it. However I have one question. Obviously eating things such as quinoa, brown rice, buckwheat etc... are great options for a high carb night and I understand that eating too many processed carbs is a bad choice but here is my question: I live in Israel right now and get any bread products from the local bakery. They make all of their products fresh every day. It's hard for me to believe that they would use the same types of preservatives/chemicals that a large commercial factory would use such as in the states so I've been equating this bread to that of Ezekiel bread. If I decided to make some of this bread part of my main source of carboyhydrates on an occasional high carb night does anyone think that this would be detrimental?
Thanks everyone!
-J
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Dano3000
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 03:38:13 PM »

Absolutely not. Fresh bakery bread is delicious, and chances are they don't use preservatives/hfcs but it doesn't hurt to ask if you are THAT worried about it.
Quick question for you considering you live in Israel; Do you consider hummus a fat, a carb, a meal, or a condiment?
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 04:39:08 PM »

haha thanks so much for your quick response dano! now i can enjoy my feast tonight : )

Thats actually a really good question about the hummus and I have several things to say about it. First, the hummus you'll find in the states and the hummus you'll find in Israel is completely different; there is nothing better than buying  a kilogram of the best hummus in the world and eating it with freshly made tahini, or using it as a salad dressing, or as a nice dip, or plain as part of my main meal. In terms of your question, personally I either use it as a condiment on a high fat or high carb night, or as a fat fuel and save things such as fresh baked bread, quinoa, brown rice etc for my main meal on a high carb night. Honestly it is for no specific reason other than thats just how things have played out for me, but i can see myself using it for any of those options. Let me know what you think about hummus! Thanks again for your help!
-J
P.S. If you've never been to Israel, it is amazing and fits in perfectly with the WD lifestyle! There are fresh fruit/vegetable and fruit juice stands EVERYWHERE, as well as fresh nut/seed stands. Most families tend to eat raw fruits/veggies with a lot of yogurt throughout the day and early afternoon then have a very large lunch and a small dinner so it is pretty similar. Come visit! : )
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010, 09:14:55 PM »

Jordan,
I would expect the bread you are eating is MUCH better than the norm of what you would find in the states. However, before you compare it to Ezekiel bread.... remember Ezekiel is made with live sprouted grains. The bread you are consuming may not be. In fact it could have a flour base. I would ask... I have heard some fickle things about flour. But don't let it rain on your parade. I bet your bread is pretty clean. Lets be honest.... you would be crazy not to take advantage of fresh bread like that! The only thing you can do is eat it, enjoy it and see how you feel and perform. If you don't gain unwanted weight and you feel good than it fits in YOUR warrior diet. Thats what this is about anyway....finding what works for you. Most people get a bit carried away at times.

real close to the one arm pull up bro!
Take care
Coach
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 09:29:24 AM »

Yeah, I've never had Israeli made hummus, but I have had pre-made tahini imported from israel and even THAT put everything you can get in America to a head hanging shame. I can make a really good hummus, but again its probably limited by the quality of ingredients.
But it seems we share the same opinion that Hummus is so good it shouldn't be limited to certain days or cycles. I agree.
I'd LOVE to visit Israel. Middle Eastern culture fascinates me, as does their cuisine.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2010, 03:27:17 PM »

Jordan, thanks for sharing the 5:2, fat:carb ratio. In time, I may try to apply that schedule.

Dano, if your question is still being asked, I would consider hummus (in addition to being an excellent condiment) a carb fuel. Having mistakenly referred to legumes solely as a protein for some time, Defense Nutrition's E-books helped clarify The Warrior Diet text's ambiguity. In his most recent E-book, Ori lists hummus as a carb.

LS, keep us all posted on the OAPU.

Thanks.
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