Which AED/WD meal replacement powders

[SteveFreides]

Looking at all the protein-powder-like choices on the Defense Nutrition web site, I'm wondering who should take what, e.g., if you're taking Estrox capsules, should you take the Estrox MR?  Likewise, what is exactly the difference in intended outcome between Warrior Milk and Warrior Whey products, etc.

There's some brief bit of info about mixing some of these on one of the pages, but an overview would be very helpful, IMHO.

FWIW, my wife and I are both around 50 years old, neither of us is overweight and we're both in good shape with, if not ideal body compositions, certainly close to ideal in terms of low bodyfat, good muscle tone, etc.  We've both been doing the WD/AED style of eating for a number of years and are delighted with it.  I'm happy to give some particulars about my wife and myself, but a general overview here would be a good start - perhaps even worthy of an article on the web site. 

-S-
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[DN Moderator]

In a nutshell, I have to say that the Warrior Whey (http://www.defensenutrition.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=16) is exactly that - Whey.  In essence, it's pretty much pure natural whey protein with the following benefits:

    * Supports the body’s demand for amino acids
    * Can help enhance the protein ratio in Warrior Milk, Warrior Meal Replacement and                   EstroX meal replacement
    * Supports immunity
    * Promotes recovery

It should be used to boost the protein levels in other shakes.  By itself it tastes quite bland, as it's pretty much pure whey.  Added to the other shakes and meal replacements, it makes them thicker and creamier.


Warrior Milk (http://www.defensenutrition.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=10) is more of a Protein Shake, which is to be used typically for post-workout recovery.


The new Warrior Meal Replacement (http://www.warriordiet.com/articles/low-glycemic) - No Sugar Added, was designed specifically to be a meal replacement that is low glycemic and a viable alternative for those with blood sugar disorders.  But, just let me say, that the taste is fantastic and rivals the Warrior Milk in flavor.  It also has stabilized Rice Germ in it to add natural sweetness and support the hormonal system.  Do yourself a favor and take advantage of the "Buy 2, Get 1 FREE" offer this week.  We're trying to get people to try it, as the flavor is addictive, at least in my humble opinion.


The Defense Nutrition EstroX Meal Replacement (http://www.defensenutrition.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId= in its essence is the same as the NEW Warrior Meal Replacement Shake, except that it has added Estrogen Inhibitors - DIM and Chrysin.  That's what makes it considerably more expensive as natural estrogen inhibitors are not cheap.

Click on any of the above links for a full description of each.  Also check out Friday's Newsletter for a special of the above three combined.

Steve, you must be psychic!  I hope this answers your question.

[charleslong]

I agree with the moderator on the taste. They are very good. They whey needs to be mixed with something else if you want flavor. Now if only they would get some more chocolate Estro-X in....

[SteveFreides]

OK, that helps but I still have questions.  I'm no expert on protein drinks/shakes - the thing we used to do here was mix Designer Whey - flavored - with milk, a banana, and ice cubes in the blender.  When I look at Warrior Whey and Warrior Milk, the serving sizes are different (might be nice to have them be the same).  4 tbs. of either is about the same amount of protein, 18-20 gr, and about the same amount of carbs, 3-4 gr.  The third one, Warrior Meal Replacement, also seems similar in nutritional content but has a bit more carbs, 6 gr., but the same amount of protein for a 4 tbs. serving.

And I still have my question about taking Estrox capsules - if you are taking Estrox capsules, would you want to use the Estrox MR or is that overkill  - and you'd do better either dropping the capsules and keeping the Estrox MR or keeping the capsules and going with one of the 3 WD protein products.

I suppose I'm showing my nutritional ignorance in not seeing any real difference between the 3 WD products, but I don't.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

-S-

[DN Moderator]

Steve, it's cool.  We appreciate your questions.  We definitely want people to have clarity when ordering.  Questions like yours help us define our products better and show us where we may not be explaining things as well as we need to.  It's just a process.  Guys like you help us out.

EstroX Shake has different estrogen inhibitors than the caps and was created to offer a viable, low glycemic, natural meal replacement to enhance the estrogen inhibiting effect of the supplements.  You're fine without it, but if you need or want an extra dose of estrogen inhibitors, the EstroX Meal Replacement is a great addition.

Again, they whey is pretty much pure protein.  Just think of it as adding a natural protein boost to your shake or meal replacement concoction.

The Meal Replacement has some more carbs, but they are from the rice fiber, which has been proven to naturally help the body stabilize blood sugar levels.

Finally, if you're taking the EstroX caps, you don't have to take the EstroX Shake, but if you take the two in conjunction, you'll probably see better benefits if you're working towards losing stubborn fat and leaning down, due to the extra Chrysin and DIM therein.

I hope this helps you!

[SteveFreides]

Great - that does clarify things for me.  If you can stand them, a few more questions:

You mention the rice fiber in the MR - I'd like to learn a little more about that, in particular what stabilizing blood sugar levels might mean in this context, e.g., are you saying it might be a better choice than whey plus a banana in terms of not having a spike followed by hunger a few hours later?  I ask because, as I mentioned, my usual practice and that of a lot of other people, I'm sure, has been whey protein plus fruit and water or milk in a blender.  Would the carbs in the MR product be enough to negate the need for additional carbs at the same time in some circumstances, e.g., maybe not immediately post-exercise, when more carbs are beneficial, but maybe at other times like during the undereating that's not near a workout?

Just trying to get a handle on all this, and thanks again in advance for taking the time to answer.

-S-

[Hunter]

I was wondering the same thing, Steve.  I have been using the Estro-X MR, and here is what I have been doing.  Mix 4TBS (bout 4 heaping spoonfuls) w/ 6-8oz water + frozen papaya (or banana or berries).  Blend that.  It absolutely kills my hunger for a few hours after and I don't have a spike (at least I think I don't....don't feel tired or dragged out at all after).  It is a great snack....I think frozen papaya w/ it is my favorite.  Adding some fruit puts the estro x MR in more of the recovery meal zone, I think.